Darkest Dungeon® No space Characters Guide DD-Modding

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Informations, properties and how use no space characters in DD modding

 
 

What are tooltips with no space?

 
To say it simple it is just tooltip that have inside many characters that take no space. 
In my case i used exactly 182* en.wikipedia.org – https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zero-width_space 
 

Examples

 
With and without zero width spaces: 

  • [Example Tooltip​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​] 
  • [Example Tooltip]

 
Visually it looks exactly the same but game will show you that those really are different. 
 
*big amounts are not required but recommended. 
Minimum amount of no space characters is related to the length of tooltip. And it has exactly the same properties as much easier to do overkill. 
 
“​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​” free sample of 200 no-spacers between ” and ” 
 
useful link docs.google.com – https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1y1JdVXZdHgYERmVKakZ8KZpzbUB-FJnH5_L9twQPQq4/edit?usp=sharing 
 
 

Properties of tooltips with no-spaces

 

  • Always count as tooltips with max amount of characters, no matter the amount of text inside. 
    (because they take up entire space of tooltip) 
  • They can delete a couple of next characters. Depend on amount of normal characters. 
    (it happens always when amount of them is big enough, probably fault is in how DD was coded but noone can be sure)

 

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Darkest Dungeon® No space Characters Guide DD-ModdingDarkest Dungeon® No space Characters Guide DD-Modding

 
 

Deleting Characters Properties

 
No spacers can but don’t have to delete couple next characters. How deal with it? 
Property of deleting next characters is directly related to the amount of normal characters used in tooltips. 
 

Sometimes your tooltip is perfect and you delete next charactersDarkest Dungeon® No space Characters Guide DD-Modding
But then adding just 1 more makes the tooltip not delete again…Darkest Dungeon® No space Characters Guide DD-Modding
Which isn’t an issue, just adding 2 more solves the problem!Darkest Dungeon® No space Characters Guide DD-Modding

 
and this applies to every no_space tooltip, next “deleting amount” is always 3 characters longer than the previous. 
 
*minor exeption: Sometimes there is possibility to have 1 char shorter deleting amount. 
 

! and †

 
 
If you try to delete characters but there is no characters left 
at the end of your string ! will appear 
 
So solve that problem zero width spaces of your most bottom tooltip need be recoloured: {colour_start|invisible}​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​{colour_end} 
 
colour: .id “invisible” .rgba 0 0 0 0 
This will turn ! to be transparent 
Darkest Dungeon® No space Characters Guide DD-Modding 
 
Darkest Dungeon® No space Characters Guide DD-Modding 
 
† sometimes happens at end of tooltip if your zero width don’t delete couple characters. 
just add 1 or 2 characters to make tooltip with deleting property to solve this problem. 
 
 

How to Use no-space tooltip

 
Depend what you want achieve: 
But i have couple usually wanted examples. 
 

All skills have 2 modes and they have ugly line at bottom of skills

 
Replace your bottom effect on skill with custom tooltip with re-coloured invisible zero-width-space, 
It will delete “enter” character. 
 
<entry id=”buff_stat_tooltip_upgrade_discount_NbbOwl_SmoBomb_END”><![CDATA[ {colour_start|notable}Cooldown: 4 rds{colour_end} {colour_start|invisible}​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​{colour_end}]]></entry> 
 

BeforeAfter
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Trinket Have 1 Ugly empty line at bottom

 
Add to buff section custom tooltip with no spacers* 
 

BeforeAfterExeption*
Darkest Dungeon® No space Characters Guide DD-ModdingDarkest Dungeon® No space Characters Guide DD-ModdingDarkest Dungeon® No space Characters Guide DD-Modding

*This method will not work if trinket have not hidden effect trigger that is higher priority than every hidden ones. 
docs.google.com – https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1y1JdVXZdHgYERmVKakZ8KZpzbUB-FJnH5_L9twQPQq4/edit?usp=sharing 
 

Trinket Have 1 (or more) Ugly empty lines at bottom

 
Replace your bottom effect on trinket trigger with custom tooltip with normal zero-width-space, 
It will delete “enter” character as long as visible trigger is above hidden one. 
 

BeforeAfter
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I want fully customable trinket tooltip

 
Add 4 Skill rule tooltips (or 8 upg_discount) with nospacers. 
Last one with re-coloured to transparent. 
Char limit of trinket is 1023 so all characters will be replaced by your toolips. 

Result**
Darkest Dungeon® No space Characters Guide DD-Modding

**This trinket have inside every effect trigger in game. 
 

I want fully customable skill tooltip

 
Similar to ^ but with less effects becaue char limit of class char sheet is 511 
 

I want fully customable camp skill tooltip

 
Similar to ^ but you use loot tooltip instead, also char limit is 511 
 

Custom tooltips on VIrtue/affliction icon?

 
You must have ignore_stealth buff with skill rule 
skill tooltip need no-spacers with invisible recolour at end 
<entry id=”buff_rule_data_tooltip_sas_powerful_TT”> <![CDATA[Custom Tooltips on Affliction/Virtue icons{colour_start|invisible}​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​{colour_end}]]></entry> 

Result***
Darkest Dungeon® No space Characters Guide DD-Modding

***downside: RH made stalth ignore that it don’t care about rules and values so it works anyway… 
 

Custom tooltips on Corner on Camp skill?

 
You must have scouting_chance buff with skill rule and 0 amount. 
skill tooltip need no-spacers with invisible recolour at end 
<entry id=”buff_rule_data_tooltip_sas_camp_TT”><![CDATA[ Custom Tooltip For Camp corner icon{colour_start|invisible}​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​{colour_end}]]></entry> 
 

Result****
Darkest Dungeon® No space Characters Guide DD-Modding

****No way to add duration indication in that way. 
 
 

Most important tooltips and limits

 

  • weapon name: 127 char 
  • tooltips for skills: 511 char 
  • tooltips for camp skills: 511 char 
  • skill name: 63 char 
  • trinkets: 1023 char 
     
  • mode info: 63 char 
  • upgrade_discount (custom tooltip): 127 char 
  • quirk_tag_evolution_duration: 127 char 
  • Skill rule: 255 char

 
 
 

Last Comments

 
Using those is very rewarding but they require you to think oustide DD-modding box. 
 
I hope that you guys will more likely to use them <3 
 
good luck and have good time! 
 
Special Thanks for O’Nightmare for showing me No space characters first time. 
 

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